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		<title>By: Emilly Orr</title>
		<link>http://bardhaven.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/mute-testimony/#comment-2967</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilly Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*looks around at the new design*

Okay, I&#039;m mystified.  Where&#039;s the small grey-or-white text on the black background?  Near as I can tell, it&#039;s charcoal on white...

But hey, you might as well go ahead and &lt;a href=&quot;http://razorblade-cookies.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;me&lt;/a&gt;, too--after all, I use very-small-to-small lemon text on dark brown. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*looks around at the new design*</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m mystified.  Where&#8217;s the small grey-or-white text on the black background?  Near as I can tell, it&#8217;s charcoal on white&#8230;</p>
<p>But hey, you might as well go ahead and <a href="http://razorblade-cookies.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">me</a>, too&#8211;after all, I use very-small-to-small lemon text on dark brown. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Cee Edman</title>
		<link>http://bardhaven.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/mute-testimony/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee Edman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir;
I share your irritation at RP (specifically story-based RP) in a non-RP public event or chat.  I, too, find constant dialectical conversation annoying, just as I feel sure others find my inability to touch-type accurately and the resulting typonese equally difficult to translate.  I have so far been able to ignore rather than mute.

However, your suggestion is handy, and I shall apply it here, in light of two coinciding irritations that I find  as egregious as the dialect:  Very small gray or and white text on black background, and the use of grandiose noble titles outside of the confines of one&#039;s specific roleplay.

Just so you know, I think you must be a terrific human being, but I&#039;m &quot;muting&quot; this blog un-bookmarked, despite the fact that I&#039;m sure I would enjoy reading it often if I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir;<br />
I share your irritation at RP (specifically story-based RP) in a non-RP public event or chat.  I, too, find constant dialectical conversation annoying, just as I feel sure others find my inability to touch-type accurately and the resulting typonese equally difficult to translate.  I have so far been able to ignore rather than mute.</p>
<p>However, your suggestion is handy, and I shall apply it here, in light of two coinciding irritations that I find  as egregious as the dialect:  Very small gray or and white text on black background, and the use of grandiose noble titles outside of the confines of one&#8217;s specific roleplay.</p>
<p>Just so you know, I think you must be a terrific human being, but I&#8217;m &#8220;muting&#8221; this blog un-bookmarked, despite the fact that I&#8217;m sure I would enjoy reading it often if I could.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotspur O'Toole</title>
		<link>http://bardhaven.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/mute-testimony/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>Hotspur O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your point, Ms. Gray.  If an individual recognizes that ANOTHER individual irritates him, and *quietly* mutes the irritating individual, then hasn&#039;t that first person done a service to society as a whole?  Think on it.  Less bickering in public places.  Less confrontation.  Less dramatic posturing on blogs.  You simply don&#039;t exist for each other any more.  What could be more preferable in an orderly, mannerly society?  I say, &quot;Mute away, and make the world a better place&quot; (and that applies to me, too, I will not mind).  Baron Bardhaven takes things to a level I don&#039;t-- I think informing people they are muted just causes problems.  They&#039;ll figure it out eventually, why rub noses in it?  In the meantime, no need to make things public, why court trouble?

Mutin&#039; ain&#039;t Hatin&#039;

Hotspur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your point, Ms. Gray.  If an individual recognizes that ANOTHER individual irritates him, and *quietly* mutes the irritating individual, then hasn&#8217;t that first person done a service to society as a whole?  Think on it.  Less bickering in public places.  Less confrontation.  Less dramatic posturing on blogs.  You simply don&#8217;t exist for each other any more.  What could be more preferable in an orderly, mannerly society?  I say, &#8220;Mute away, and make the world a better place&#8221; (and that applies to me, too, I will not mind).  Baron Bardhaven takes things to a level I don&#8217;t&#8211; I think informing people they are muted just causes problems.  They&#8217;ll figure it out eventually, why rub noses in it?  In the meantime, no need to make things public, why court trouble?</p>
<p>Mutin&#8217; ain&#8217;t Hatin&#8217;</p>
<p>Hotspur</p>
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		<title>By: Fogwoman Gray</title>
		<link>http://bardhaven.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/mute-testimony/#comment-2923</link>
		<dc:creator>Fogwoman Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, I find the generation of drama like the aforementioned incredibly painful conversation in Edison to be much more offensive than an accent. Many of us there were unwilling witnesses to a very disturbing display that did nothing to promote the whole reason the Grand Tour was created. Yes, I understand Drama is Caledon&#039;s chief import/export. I also understand very well that both group chat and local chat are places where (not unlike other public places) we are likely to be unwilling witnesses to things which offend or annoy us. That said, I find nothing &quot;sneaky&quot; about quietly muting someone who annoys me, and perhaps if appropriate IMing privately first to request they cease and desist. Of course this is a very undramatic way to handle it, and unlikely to inspire waves of blog posts :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, I find the generation of drama like the aforementioned incredibly painful conversation in Edison to be much more offensive than an accent. Many of us there were unwilling witnesses to a very disturbing display that did nothing to promote the whole reason the Grand Tour was created. Yes, I understand Drama is Caledon&#8217;s chief import/export. I also understand very well that both group chat and local chat are places where (not unlike other public places) we are likely to be unwilling witnesses to things which offend or annoy us. That said, I find nothing &#8220;sneaky&#8221; about quietly muting someone who annoys me, and perhaps if appropriate IMing privately first to request they cease and desist. Of course this is a very undramatic way to handle it, and unlikely to inspire waves of blog posts :)</p>
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		<title>By: TotalLunar Eclipse</title>
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		<dc:creator>TotalLunar Eclipse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from the fact that our chat has been down for two weeks I can assure you that sort of &#039;hate talk&#039; is not allowed in Steelhead Public Channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the fact that our chat has been down for two weeks I can assure you that sort of &#8216;hate talk&#8217; is not allowed in Steelhead Public Channels.</p>
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		<title>By: BardHaven</title>
		<link>http://bardhaven.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/mute-testimony/#comment-2891</link>
		<dc:creator>BardHaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron Wulfenbach,

I could certainly argue or discuss several of the interesting points you made in your comment, but I feel that doing such a thing would not be a wise or valuable use of the time of either of us, however enjoyable it would have been.

Therefore, I will come right to the crux of the matter.

First of all, I welcome your admission, even under duress, that you did not properly understand the terms &quot;race&quot; or &quot;racist&quot; and therefore used them inappropriately. I am quite certain that was not easy for you to concede, so I will take your statement as the apology I am sure it was meant to be, and accept it gladly. To be clear, I would not have protested overly much if you had called me &quot;Rude&quot; or &quot;Pig-headed&quot; or &quot;Criminally well-dressed&quot;, I just took exception to your use of the term &quot;Racist&quot;, which you now admit I am not. I don&#039;t mind being disliked, I simply insist on being disliked accurately.

As for your refreshing concession that you over-reacted to the entire matter, I will also take THIS as the apology I am sure you meant to make, and accept it as well in the same spirit.

Finally, as to the fact that a member of your &quot;staff&quot; was offended that I said I was muting them, I do offer my most humble and sincere regrets and apology for that fact and hope you will convey those sentiments to them. It truly was never my intention to insult them in any way, I simply felt I was being honest and forthright. 

I do so hate offending anyone accidently, it&#039;s like having the flu on a snow day.

I am quite sure in future we will never have occasion to encounter one another again except by the most unfortunate of accidents, but if we do, I promise you on my honour that I will never inform any of your &quot;staff&quot; before muting them again.

Enjoy your role play.

Yours most contritely,
BardHaven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron Wulfenbach,</p>
<p>I could certainly argue or discuss several of the interesting points you made in your comment, but I feel that doing such a thing would not be a wise or valuable use of the time of either of us, however enjoyable it would have been.</p>
<p>Therefore, I will come right to the crux of the matter.</p>
<p>First of all, I welcome your admission, even under duress, that you did not properly understand the terms &#8220;race&#8221; or &#8220;racist&#8221; and therefore used them inappropriately. I am quite certain that was not easy for you to concede, so I will take your statement as the apology I am sure it was meant to be, and accept it gladly. To be clear, I would not have protested overly much if you had called me &#8220;Rude&#8221; or &#8220;Pig-headed&#8221; or &#8220;Criminally well-dressed&#8221;, I just took exception to your use of the term &#8220;Racist&#8221;, which you now admit I am not. I don&#8217;t mind being disliked, I simply insist on being disliked accurately.</p>
<p>As for your refreshing concession that you over-reacted to the entire matter, I will also take THIS as the apology I am sure you meant to make, and accept it as well in the same spirit.</p>
<p>Finally, as to the fact that a member of your &#8220;staff&#8221; was offended that I said I was muting them, I do offer my most humble and sincere regrets and apology for that fact and hope you will convey those sentiments to them. It truly was never my intention to insult them in any way, I simply felt I was being honest and forthright. </p>
<p>I do so hate offending anyone accidently, it&#8217;s like having the flu on a snow day.</p>
<p>I am quite sure in future we will never have occasion to encounter one another again except by the most unfortunate of accidents, but if we do, I promise you on my honour that I will never inform any of your &#8220;staff&#8221; before muting them again.</p>
<p>Enjoy your role play.</p>
<p>Yours most contritely,<br />
BardHaven</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus Wulfenbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus Wulfenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron BardHaven,

I would have been happy to provide my opinion to you directly, but unfortunately I was crashing quite often during the Grand Tour, and I did not see you at any of the other events.

I have been told in no uncertain terms that my definition of &#039;racist&#039; as I hold it is inaccurate.  Understood.

Then I will say I found your &lt;i&gt;attitude&lt;/i&gt; unacceptable.  You have expressed, in the past, a sense of humour and particular behaviours which I did not particularly agree with, but if I was sufficiently bothered, I could quietly close the chat for a while until the conversation shifted.  The more personal aspects involved the consent of another, and were (and are) none of my business.  You often have interesting and valuable things to say, or have done in the past when I saw more of you in the areas I frequent.

This, however, was an insult to one of my staff, perhaps the final straw in a series of offences I have had to swallow to keep the peace and to be the &#039;better man&#039;.  Perhaps it was a matter of unfortunate timing that you happened to hit this repeatedly-damaged sore spot; I will concede as much to some over-reaction.  Part of it was due to disappointment and dismayed surprise.

However, I do not like to see anyone treated unfairly; you may accuse me of having failed in this in the past, but that is a matter for private mail.  I have seen, however, a whole subsection of those for whom I am responsible be rejected simply for the way they speak.  Not for reasons of ethics, morality, politics or even their collective history, but for an &lt;i&gt;accent&lt;/i&gt;.  What sort of &#039;supposed noble&#039; would I be if I did not defend my own?  And who else is it acceptable to automatically mute?  Who are the disposable people on the grid now?

You did not throw your rejection into the face of an &#039;imaginary comic book character&#039;, Herr Baron.  You insulted a &lt;i&gt;person&lt;/i&gt;.  You may be dismissive of &#039;roleplay&#039; as much as you like to trivialise those whom you exclude, but the value judgement was still given.

Yrs.,

Klaus Wulfenbach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron BardHaven,</p>
<p>I would have been happy to provide my opinion to you directly, but unfortunately I was crashing quite often during the Grand Tour, and I did not see you at any of the other events.</p>
<p>I have been told in no uncertain terms that my definition of &#8216;racist&#8217; as I hold it is inaccurate.  Understood.</p>
<p>Then I will say I found your <i>attitude</i> unacceptable.  You have expressed, in the past, a sense of humour and particular behaviours which I did not particularly agree with, but if I was sufficiently bothered, I could quietly close the chat for a while until the conversation shifted.  The more personal aspects involved the consent of another, and were (and are) none of my business.  You often have interesting and valuable things to say, or have done in the past when I saw more of you in the areas I frequent.</p>
<p>This, however, was an insult to one of my staff, perhaps the final straw in a series of offences I have had to swallow to keep the peace and to be the &#8216;better man&#8217;.  Perhaps it was a matter of unfortunate timing that you happened to hit this repeatedly-damaged sore spot; I will concede as much to some over-reaction.  Part of it was due to disappointment and dismayed surprise.</p>
<p>However, I do not like to see anyone treated unfairly; you may accuse me of having failed in this in the past, but that is a matter for private mail.  I have seen, however, a whole subsection of those for whom I am responsible be rejected simply for the way they speak.  Not for reasons of ethics, morality, politics or even their collective history, but for an <i>accent</i>.  What sort of &#8217;supposed noble&#8217; would I be if I did not defend my own?  And who else is it acceptable to automatically mute?  Who are the disposable people on the grid now?</p>
<p>You did not throw your rejection into the face of an &#8216;imaginary comic book character&#8217;, Herr Baron.  You insulted a <i>person</i>.  You may be dismissive of &#8216;roleplay&#8217; as much as you like to trivialise those whom you exclude, but the value judgement was still given.</p>
<p>Yrs.,</p>
<p>Klaus Wulfenbach</p>
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